Nirvik: I heard that Achyuta wanted to come back to earth, to take human incarnation again. Why? He’s with you all the time in the inner world. What does he want to come back for?
Sri Chinmoy: In my house there are quite a few rooms. Some people like the meditation room, while others like the porch, and still others like even the kitchen. Achyuta likes both earth and Heaven. But he prefers to live on earth rather than in Heaven, because he loves God the creation more than he loves God the Creator. Some people like God the Creator more than God the creation. Again, some people like this world, God the creation, so that they can become one, completely one, with God the creation. Earth is God the creation, so he likes God the creation more.
In his case, a day or two after he passed away, he told me in the inner world that he would like to come back to earth soon. In Sunil’s case, Sunil did not want to leave the body. He was inside the coffin, and I was looking at him, meditating on him. He said in the inner world that he wanted to come back. Can you imagine? It was just a matter of a few hours, he was still inside the coffin, and he was eager to come back, already the soul wanted to come back. Now he has taken birth after a few years.24
It is a matter of preference. There are two rooms – one of God’s rooms is Heaven, and another is earth. Some people like the earth-room much more than the Heaven-room.I had a long, long conversation with the soul of my dearest brother-friend-mentor Amritananda.25 He cannot make a decision whether he will come back at all. He is not certain. He has suffered so much. He is not as attached to this world because of his suffering. I said, “Why do you have to make a decision now? You have just left the earth-room. Why do you have to worry?” He wants to live in Heaven. He does not want to make any decision whether he will come back.
He did not want to die, but it is all in the Hands of God. We want, we do not want. God is far beyond our desire, far beyond our expectation-life. Whatever is in His Mind, in His Will, He will execute. Sometimes when He fulfils us, fulfils our desire, we say, “Oh, God is very good.” When He does not fulfil our desire, we say He is very bad.
But again, if you can become a very good seeker, then you immediately feel, “Oh, perhaps for my good, God is not fulfilling my desire.” Today I want to have only one mango, but God, in His Mind, has chosen an hour to give me ten mangoes to eat.
But today I want one mango, and God says, “No, I will not give you a mango today. But I am ready to give you ten mangoes on a certain date that you do not know.” How, when, where God is going to fulfil our desire, we have no idea.Very good question! A few days ago, while I was coming to San Diego on the plane, I saw a file with poetic expressions written by my Ila (Nirvik’s late wife). Tears were rolling down my cheeks. I see her in Heaven, but not on earth. Call it attachment, or call it affection. For a God-realised person it is affection, believe it or not. For those who are not God-realised, it is attachment. For me, my affection is such that people may think it is attachment. When I am so sad after my dogs die, in a human way you can call it attachment. In a divine way it is affection.
Once a great admirer of Sri Ramakrishna passed away, and Sri Ramakrishna suffered so much. He said how painful it was when somebody dies. The admirer’s name was Keshab Sen. The person was not even a real disciple, but he was a great admirer. Sri Ramakrishna saw immediately that the soul of that person was flying high, higher, highest so happily. Sri Ramakrishna started clapping, and then he made a comparison between his Naren, who was Swami Vivekananda, and that man. He said that inside that admirer, Sri Ramakrishna saw only one sun that illumines, but inside his Naren, he saw eighteen suns.
My Supreme has given me many, many more than eighteen suns – I cannot tell the actual figure. That is why it has been possible for me while on earth to do so much manifestation – from my writings, from my paintings, from my music and all kinds of things. The inner suns illumine the world through the manifestation of God’s Light.
15 June 2007
Ananda Fuara Restaurant, San Francisco
Sri Chinmoy had announced that Sunil was born in Russia on 24 January 2004.
↩Amritananda Russell Barber was an NBC producer and host of a television show on world spirituality and religion, who conducted respectful interviews of Sri Chinmoy and was very supportive of his activities.↩
From:Sri Chinmoy,Concern: A Reality of the Heart, Agni Press, 2025
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