Conversation — part II

Sri Chinmoy: You don’t have to say that you are the greatest, but your heart of oneness with all humanity makes you the greatest. A few years ago you gave a talk at Harvard about the heart. I still remember it. I read it and I heard about it.

Muhammad Ali: Actually it was something from Hazrat Inayat Khan.

Sri Chinmoy: Yes, his son, Pir Vilayat Khan, is my friend. He is in London. We are very close friends.

Muhammad Ali: His father was so great. I’ve read his books.

Sri Chinmoy: Very great. His son is now the head of the Sufi Movement. His name is Pir Vilayat Khan.

Jeremiah: Yeah, I’ve read about him.

Muhammad Ali: Well, that’s where I got the lecture from — his father. All that stuff comes from his father directly.

Jeremiah: They’re from India, aren’t they?

Sri Chinmoy: Yes, they are from India. Two years ago he invited me to give a talk at his ashram, and he asked me a question on spirituality. There were quite a few of his followers, and I conducted meditation there. It was in Woodstock.

Muhammad Ali: His father was a great man, wasn’t he?

Sri Chinmoy: Very great, very great.

Muhammad Ali: Why is it that people like Hazrat Inayat Khan are not real popular in this country, in the world? His books are so full of wisdom.

Sri Chinmoy: Full of love, full of light.

Muhammad Ali: Where is he popular, in what country?

Sri Chinmoy: He is popular only in the hearts of those who love God.

Muhammad Ali: That’s right.

Sri Chinmoy: He is not popular even in India, but only in the hearts of those who love God.

Muhammad Ali: That’s beautiful: popular in the heart of those who love God. That’s why I’m glad to see you.

Sri Chinmoy: Love of God, of Allah, is more than enough. They feel their oneness with Allah, and that is more than enough for them.

Muhammad Ali: Yes, that’s right. They don’t need publicity. You’re so right.